tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956830097495837473.post4074064880999415641..comments2023-10-14T13:18:37.330+01:00Comments on angels in marble: Who is Commanding the Resolution Forces?hatfield girlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12673905475452420002noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956830097495837473.post-33106488816880120122011-03-19T14:50:42.497+00:002011-03-19T14:50:42.497+00:00The no-fly zone part of the Resolution seems to ha...The no-fly zone part of the Resolution seems to have grabbed the headlines but Italian military sources are discussing what needs to be done by ground troops to protect civilians against Gadaffi. While President Napolitano says "What is necessary to be done will be done." There seems to be no questioning of interventions on the ground; what is being discussed is what and where.<br /><br />I thought Greenstream had been turned off for the moment. Haven't all the technicians been evacuated? Or perhaps that's another pipeline. It's very difficult to think about all this - another world has appeared in Italy full of soldiers and naval forces and bases and institutional structures that were invisible only days ago. And the whole place is decked in tricolore flags and bunting because of the anniversary so it looks frighteningly patriotic particularly with all the war news and announcements on the tv.<br /><br />You must be right about the really realpolitik being shown, ND. Italy is not going to put up with Libya threatening anything at all. <br /><br />Too late now seems to be the reality.hatfield girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12673905475452420002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956830097495837473.post-56715606190903265012011-03-19T14:06:17.631+00:002011-03-19T14:06:17.631+00:00Raven! Boats of refugees are the very people the ...Raven! Boats of refugees are the very people the Italians are saving - and so they should be. They don't know what to do on Lampedusa any more, they don't know how to cope with the flow of desperate people, but they aren't going to leave them to drown, even less attack them, while they work it out.hatfield girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12673905475452420002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956830097495837473.post-56682247186429521832011-03-19T12:26:08.588+00:002011-03-19T12:26:08.588+00:00According to Mark Urban on Newsnight recently, Gad...According to Mark Urban on Newsnight recently, Gaddafi probably only has about 4 fairly modern planes in working order. That's not much of a threat.<br /><br />Europe needs to buy oil and gas from whichever thug runs Libya, and have him prevent a flood of African migrants to Europe. Those are our interests there. The rest is entertainment, often of the horror movie variety.The media has a short attention span and will rush to bring us gruesome sights to agonise over from the next disaster area.<br /><br />The real threat from Libya lies in the tide of Islamic migrants and refugees already washing up on Europe's shores. Those are the boats our navies and air forces should be sinking.Odin's Ravenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10138497698247404499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2956830097495837473.post-2073182584427067122011-03-19T12:15:44.374+00:002011-03-19T12:15:44.374+00:00'short of occupation' definitely doesn'...'short of occupation' definitely doesn't exclude the use of ground troops: highly likely that special forces will be used (to attack anti-aircraft sites), the desert is their favourite arena (pun intended)<br /><br />it will be interesting to see how Egypt deploys - unfortunately they are technically very poor (bizarrely, the desert is <i>not</i> their arena, I have an excellent tale on this topic from Bush Snr's Gulf War)<br /><br />more than interesting also to watch <a href="http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/02/28/gazprom-italy-idUKLDE71R27A20110228" rel="nofollow">how Greenstream fares</a><br /><br />I think we are seeing some tremendous energy-based <i>realpolitik</i> from everyone - except the Germans! who pride themselves on being really strategic on this, but are proving to be a real one-trick pony: grovel to Russia and, errr, grovel to Russia. Where's Rommel when you need him, eh ?<br /><br />but why is no-one talking about Iran. 50:50 they chance their arm in some malign way while all this is going on<br /><br />I don't think any of the bad guys should take comfort from Russian & Chinese abstentions<br /><br />there is no Power on earth willing to let this get too far out of control (give that China is willing to play things very long indeed - & they need to buy raw materials too) <br /><br />one way and the other, Colonel Q is on his own; Iran had best think carefully; & the Germans look pretty sillyNick Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670594203660051701noreply@blogger.com