Tuesday 17 June 2008

The State We Are In

'Mounted and riot police later divided the protesters between two fronts: one on Great George Street and the other at the mouth of Whitehall.', reported the Evening Standard of the demonstrations against the war criminal George Bush and his 'British' Prime Minister nose-picker. So far, so as it always was, although the aluminium lathis have a retrograde, imperial smack to them that was not present in Angels' demonstrating days.

'"Snatch squads" then patrolled the area, arresting people who had earlier been filmed by officers and highlighted as troublemakers.' This is not standard at all. There used to be spotters pointing out people to arrest to officers while the demonstrations were at their height, but sending organised gangs of policemen to arrest demonstrator/by-standers after the struggle has died down, on surveillance camera viewing, is a development from Ireland's Troubles (and doubtless Aden, Malaya and other 'emergencies').

Arresting a demonstrator in the thick of a fight with the police is one thing; picking up suitable accusees chosen solely for propaganda purposes belongs in what were once other political hell-holes.

So now demonstrators face rastrellamento (the Fascist practice of locking in a body of protesters and then holding them there for hours, often in blazing sun or other extreme weather conditions, beating up any attempting to break out or even sit down), armed assault (the Raj practice of permitting an organized, authorised demonstration and then attacking the people with everything from boot and fist, staves, to gunfire), and snatch squads (the Soviet and east European-developed technique, used widely too in Northern Ireland) of arresting nominated victims after the event to cause the greatest fear-inducing effect among potential future dissidents.

The oppressed people learn to cope with all of these, and still the regimes are overthrown. It is our turn to learn now. We have learned there is no longer such a thing in Brown's 'Britain' as a peaceful demonstration; it will be precipitated invariably into violent confrontation and consequent arbitrary arrest.

19 comments:

Sackerson said...

And we complained in the 70s/80s of a fascist police state!

hatfield girl said...

I am finding it harder and harder to fathom into whose hands, and what mindset, we have fallen, S. Despite some noticeable similarities, I fear we have not been here before. Not just 'English people have not been here before', which is what I thought at first.
Explanation, and identification is becoming a patchworking procedure where likeness, and understanding from experience is stitched together with imagination and inference.
And what am I that I find them so instantaneously and spontaneously loathsome?

Nick Drew said...

have a look at 'Yes Minister', episode 4 (1980)

The National Integrated Database was only going to cost £39 million in those days ...

hatfield girl said...

I'm trying to be detached but have just read with more care the reports on the treatment of the Ant-Bush demonstration It is Lilith's beloved Girl they took. Go to her blog.

lilith said...

Bless you HG. My rage gives way to grief then rage then pride then rage then grief again. My daughter is NOT A CRIMINAL. She has a brilliant, principled mind and a sweet, sweet, honorable heart that loves her family, extended family, and all her friends. She was born knowing right from wrong and puts me to shame.

Elby the Beserk said...

The visceral thing is weird, isn't it? I am unable to find Brown quite human, and this prompted L & myself to wonder whether David Icke is right about the giant lizards? There's trouble ahead; Brown is steering Titanic Britain into an iceberg of his own devising.

Could he be a Soviet plant, finally coming to fruition like a time-lapsed virus?

L is spot-on about her girl. She's a bit of a one-off, and should be cherished as such. I'm very proud of her strength of purpose. And her wicked sense of humour, bless her.

hatfield girl said...

They put us all to shame, all our children, Lilith. We poured our souls out for them and brought them up to do right what we got wrong.

They will do what they feel they should, and it will wring our hearts that we cannot bear, instead of them, the lash back of the powerful and contemptible.

But there are lots of powerful and honourable too - us, for instance (well, honourable anyway), as there were for us. It's just that at the moment the contemptible have the upper hand. The indifferent are always with us, but they are contemptible too, so they make up a majority.

If I'm swinging from rage to fright to being proud the next generation is not intimidated, then back to rage again, goodness knows what you are going through. You are living my terror. And I must not say 'don't do it' to my Girls either.

She will find the same welcome here as with Nomad.

Elby the Beserk said...

Sackerson - and the 60s I might add!

hatfield girl said...

Hello Elby, holding the fort magnificently as ever.

Anonymous said...

Seen from afar, the exact mood in the UK (and probably elsewhere) is hard to judge, but I do get the strong feeling that the proverbial line in the sand is but one (infernal foreign) millimetre in front of us, and, to mix my metaphors further, the valve on the pressure cooker is about to pop.

I do not like what I see ahead for the UK; the vibrations are very disturbing; my antennae are waving madly and they have not been wrong too often in the past 50 years. I strongly suspect it will end badly for many ordinary people.

I am of course not in the least surprised when so many talented and honourable people decide to do what I did and leave permanently.

Sackerson said...

Nomad: I'm sorry to say that I have similar feelings. I find survivalist thoughts coming to me unbidden.

Elby the Beserk said...

Just so. So we got on our local allotment waiting list; 50 ahead of us already. Get a gun. Learn to shoot. Learn to fish. Learn to get the dog to kill rabbits (he's well up for that, and the fantastic crashings about in the undergrowth that he occasions in the woods around us are splendid).

We'd be happy to piss off, maybe back to Pen's NZ, but I have four "kids" here, 24 to 33, who I would miss as if my heart were ripped out, and their mum, my ex, has MS, and I would feel such a heel were we to go now.

Trouble ahead. No doubt of it.

Anonymous said...

Can I assume that none of the commenters on this thread who are so appalled at the way civil liberties have been undermined in the last 10 years voted for that nice Mr Blair in 1997, 2001 or 2005?

Electro-Kevin said...

What do we say of young police officers nowadays ?

I dunno. They're of the same generation and values ...

My mind is this. That, as ever, the police will rarely kick-off especially as they are aware of video filming from multiple angles.

Probably a rowdy element in the crowd started it but once this happens the police have license to get a bit heavy.

I don't respect the police anywhere near as much as I used to. They can complain that the laws have changed under their feet and "I'm only doing my job, guv" but what job ? What laws are they upholding now ?

They have the free choice to leave the force and do other work (Many more do than used to). As for those who joined recently then they are obviously happy being the enforcers in a police state.

Either way - not my friends.

hatfield girl said...

E-K, I keep looking in hoping that you might write on what police officers think about what they are asked to do, and the UK police forces' relations with the European Union development of paramilitary police forces (like in France, or the Carabinieri).

If you look at the photos of demonstrations up to about some 10 years ago, they look more or less like 20 years ago. But now they look like troops. Armed like troops, trained like troops. And facing such soft targets - as Sackerson said: 17 year old girls, I am ashamed of my country.

Whack a policeman and he'll whack you right back, and arrest you into the bargain, fair enough. But that's not what is there any more.

These are not citizens with enhanced, deputed powers to keep order. These are troops and act like an occupying army. For shame. All of them.

Anonymous said...

Umbongo (= "brain" in Swahili)

Since you ask, yes, I am appalled at the way British "vaaaahlues", traditions and liberties have been traduced by this unrepresentative clique of Scottish communists who have constantly abused their powers, and I most certainly have never ever voted for them. The others here can speak for themselves.

No doubt you too have never sullied a voting form by marking the wrong box.

Anonymous said...

nomad

Is that translation of my blogname accurate? If so it's an obvious example of serendipity in action!

I have voted wrongly on a few occasions. I voted Labour in all the elections I could vote in up to and including 1970 and - to my eternal shame - I voted "Yes" to the EEC in 1975.

Anonymous said...

Umbongo - at least you have now apparently seen the light, so consider yourself forgiven...

Check this out:

http://perl.kamusiproject.org

brain, pl brains { Swahili: bongo , pl mabongo [derived: = ubongo] }
noun 5/6 - [ edit entry ] [ photos: upload ]
Swahili Definition: mahali inapotoka akili
English Example: In his brain Mark heard a voice
Swahili Example: Katika bongo lake Marko alisikia sauti [Masomo 241]
[note: also ubongo.]

brain { Swahili: ubongo , pl ubongo }
noun 14 - [ edit entry ] [ photos: upload ]
Swahili Example: alipigwa na majambazi mpaka ubongo wake ukamwagika

brain substance { Swahili: ubongo , pl bongo }

Near enough, methinks.

Umbongo is also the name of a Congolese drink. Type the word into your browser and you will get a fair selection of other meanings of the word from different parts of Africa.

I learned all this during my sojourn in Africa. Oddly enough, when a European calls a native a right bongo (or equivalent) it is usually meant to be not exactly complimentary, but what is actually being said is that he is quite brainy! I trust this information will not go to your head!!

With all good wishes (and apologies to HG for stealing her bandwidth for this small language lesson).

PS: Oh dear: just noticed the word ver for this: hg ki iq!! Now that's odd.

Anonymous said...

nomad

Thanks for that (and thanks to HG for allowing use of her blogspace)