Saturday 1 September 2007

Electrical Hum

Here is an Amnesty spokesman commenting on the issue of taser guns to policemen for use in situations of threat even if threateners are unarmed:
"You need trained firearms officers who not only know how to fire a Taser but know when to fire a Taser.

"These are potentially very dangerous weapons. Firearms officers undergo continuous training. I understand they undergo training for real life situations.

"And they undergo repeated training every month to keep them up to date. What we don't know is exactly what the nature of the training is that non-firearms officers will receive.

"And we're concerned that it won't be up to the same standard."

That'll be the standard for shooting electricians on their way to work half a dozen times in the head at close range.


50,000 volt shocks delivered for each trigger pull; I wonder how many goes you get before you have to plug it in for recharging?

Furthermore, it is reported in today's papers that the Defence Scientific Advisory Council medical committee, made up of 'independent' scientists and doctors, was asked to particularly assess the dangers of receiving 50,000 volt shocks by children and, are they insane?, pregnant women. To which enquiries this committee of quangoistas actually replied with an assessment of the risks.

Just doing their job.

9 comments:

Malthebof said...

I seem to recall Amnesty being set up to highlight people who were jailed for non violent non criminal opinions, particularly in the old Soviet Union. Now it appears to be in favour of abortion on demand and it comments on almost every news item. Someone said recently that all NGOs unless specifically right wing will become left wing.

hatfield girl said...

Right and left don't seem particularly useful categories any more do they?

Anonymous said...

I have taser I got in the USA... its not fun to play with.

hatfield girl said...

Useful against some of the local denizens round your way, though M.

Plastic bullets, tasers, common or garden bullets, it might be best to wind all this down, but instead the ante keeps being upped.

Friends from Zambia once remarked that when it is necessary to go armed it's time to leave, which they did for a while, though home again now. But in England?

I suppose everyone is armed here, policemen, forest guards, parking attendents, even the tax collectors, but then so is the other side, even me (when I get the form stamped by all the functionaries and pop it back to the police).

But here,like with all the rules and regulations, no-one uses them, whereas there they'll take it all literally and shoot people; after all, they have.

lilith said...

How about being "protected" by this guy?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6974625.stm

hatfield girl said...

' A Scotland Yard spokeswoman said the incident had not been outside the US Embassy in the square.
"The officer shot himself in the leg. The incident occurred whilst he was on duty in a police vehicle."

Awaiting E-K's thoughts on this one.
Do you think it was his very upper leg, or his very lower leg?

Having read now how tasers work (they shoot metal hooks which grapple into the victim's flesh attached to a pair of wires that then deliver the 50,000 volts) I feel I won't be able to eat my tea, a familiar sensation from long ago when Lives (and deaths) of the martyrs was read out on days when silence was the rule.

Electro-Kevin said...

You'd be surprised, Lilith, HG. I knew one officer who'd shot himself during training. I also knew an officer who accidentally loosed off a round whilst on duty at Heathrow - and another who left a handgun in the police station toilet. I don't know if you recall the gun left on a bus a few years back. All of this is due to nonchalance - perhaps limited tenure would prevent this.

I am bothered about the Amnesty idiot, not becuase of the idiocy (to be expected, but haven't they been reading the news ?) What bothers me is the disproportionate airtime to which small minority groups are privileged. In studio forums they sit counter to mainstream thought as though they represent an equal body of opinion - they don't and it is easy to be lulled into thinking that the debate is split 50/50; it's a shame that Amnesty can't have their opinion weighted in proportion to the tiny amount of people that they actually represent. I'm convinced that such dispropotionate representation is key to the manifestly undemocratic lunacy which afflicts our country.

hatfield girl said...

Shot himself during training? Would that be due to not being very adept yet, or officers were being trained with a taste of being shot so they'd know how we feel when they shot us?

As for disproprotionate voice to unrepresentative, self appointed opinion formers, they wouldn't get the oxygen of publicity if the BBC wasn't giving it to them.

And Amnesty should think carefully about the abortion of females in cultures that require male births for their culture's sustenance. All cultures are not of equal worth, oh no they aren't.

I knew you'd know about self-harming policemen EK. Thank you.

Electro-Kevin said...

Amnesty are right about continual training/refreshers - the army do this too. The PC concerned had fired whilst the gun was still holstered. Graphic description of medical treatment followed. Uurrgh ! Not as simple as you may think.