What sort of person takes a job as a state sneak? What is their age, their gender, their ethnicity, their educational achievement, their political allegiance, their culture, their zeitgeist?
And if all of that is questionable there remains the final incomprehensibility. Why do they want to be a state sneak in Darlington.
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Quite possibly g. But at least I did all my giving of lifts to friends' children before common decency was no longer assumed but had to be checked out in Darlington.
Anyone who travelled into Eastern Europe before democratic-centralist socialism was overthrown will be aware of the caution with which any colleague or neighbour was evaluated and ascribed a status - as a decent person or a state stooge. It was one of the most insidious and destructive aspects of that kind of society. We have arrived at the point where a sensible person evaluates people in some kinds of jobs and from parts of the country with precisely an eye to avoiding them if necessary.
Would you offer to take a Geordie friend of one of your children to an outing, the theatre, a concert, or after school activities? Or the child of someone wilfully working in one of these 'government agencies'?
Half the parents in the country are going to find themselves being assessed by people who are willing to take such jobs. And get fined £5000 and criminalised for telling them to go back to racing bladons or whatever it is they do in the North East when they aren't snooping on the rest of us.
Ah, I understand your original note, now. Thanks, A.
G.
Can an individual be said to have a zeitgeist?
This is utterly outrageous. It won't protect children. Why do they assume that everyone who finds children sexually attractive already has a criminal record?
Can consciousness be regarded as individual? Might we all partake of our surrounding consciousnesses?
I did pause though, Dearieme, but so wanted to use the word zeitgeist this morning.
Well, L. It's not about child protection is it? It's about control and atomisation and depriving the already deprived.
I had a big car; I ferried friends of the small HGs whose parents were not so fortunate or time rich. Those children will stay at home in future. Children like the small HGs will not. It makes me feel quite ill watching the corralling of the unconnected into their ghettos. And by a LABOUR regime.
It is literally nauseating. It is not even clear to me whether I need to do this to keep my job and avoid a fine.
Somewhere in the mists of Angels there is a past post that discusses the stages of the institution of fascism into a democratic society. This is the imposition of state interference into individual life under most severe penalties for non-observance of state requirements. I note interestedly too that there is extensive demand for information and requirement to register, of funds and properties held abroad - essentially the holding of an out.
The E borders are up and running too. Not just to get out but even to get back in. So very GDR.
Most of this applies only to England and Wales. Scotland voted Labour out of power just in time. Goodness knows what particularly hateful measures to bring them to heel are being put in place.
You should have been in Rome in the last two days to hear the chitchat on just how much the taxpayers in this and the next generation are going to yield up to the ruling elites (aka as bankers) in the UK. I'm going to have a go at describing that tomorrow. The Treasury representative was just SO laid back and acerbic. Then one thinks of the Vauxhall car workers who won't be having dinner on the roof terrace of the Bernini.
Strangled rage is overwhelming accurately aimed contempt. Tomorrow.
Don't worry Hats, after June 2010, they'll be s*** scared to report anybody, because they'll be on notice to quit.
Only 9 months before we can begin to breathe...
Off topic HG but I saw this and thought of Walls sausages...
Daily Mail reporting a couple who were about to get married, all set up and paid for - in steps social services, and say - no you can't, bride isn't smart enough to know what she is doing. Bride is 18 with learning difficulties (3 Rs), which she is working on, groom 25, clearly loves her to bits.
It's driving me absolutely 'effing mad. Just get the **** out of my face.
Reporting doesn't help - govt saying ISA will preven another Ian Huntly. It won't. Spokesman from some fake children's charity neglects to mention that the huge majority of child abuse happens in the home.
Next - CCTV in all rooms in all houses.
I have the feeling that the urge to indulge in violence is now very close to the surface. The recent disturbances which warranted one line on BBC World tv may be the beginning. Folk are getting very fed up and are about to lash out. It will not be pretty.
Violence - that is street violence - is the resort of the powerless though, isn't it Nomad? And so easy to put down. Even mass, non-violent demonstrations can be ignored, as they were over the Iraq invasion.
Many people, too, must be numbed by the collapse of their life chances, even if they are not yet actually out of work. It's not pretty now, nor has it been for millions of unemployed for some time.
Sackerson wrote recently that in some ways our society is hardening into a caste system, caused by deprivation becoming so entrenched (at least I hope that's a fair summary of his post). Certainly people from modest backgrounds face rigid class dividers that have sprung up under New Labour, even if they may not fully feel it, or grasp it yet.
I agree with you that violence is the natural reaction of the powerless - so my next question is "What is their alternative?" A national strike possibly? A refusal to cooperate with eg tax demands, obtaining licences or other "permissions"; plain and simple utter disobedience to anyone and anything in "authority"? Or simply complete mayhem - carefullly directed fire bombs, overturned and burned vehicles, torched buses and trains, race riots etc - in such numbers that police and other thug-built lines will be swamped? If there are enough desperate and REALLY angry people on the streets I suspect they will eventually prevail. The powers that be cannot prosecute and lock up enough of us, the system and facilities are totally inadequate and there several millions who would be determined to join in to get our country back.
I have read elsewhere that this is just the sort of reaction that the powers that be are trying to provoke in order to implement the Contingencies Act (or whatever it was called) and thereby being able to cancel elections and impose complete police state conditions. I suspect that if push really comes to shove (eg by cancelling the general election next June on some spurious excuse) the "authorities" will find themselves on the wrong end of a thrashing as the ordinary folk resort to guerrilla tactics as their only way of getting the message across. We have had our freedoms ingrained for too long for them to be high-jacked by a bunch of totalitarians.
"We have had our freedoms ingrained for too long for them to be high-jacked by a bunch of totalitarians."
WE have, Nomad, we have.
But I think you'll find the younger generation(s) are not made of such stern stuff.
There's a great deal of "if you've nothing to hide..." out there.
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